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In this episode of the ��ݮ���� Podcast, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO at ��ݮ����, and marketing colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with Dr. Ronald Goldenberg, Endocrinologist at LMC Diabetes & Endocrinology about his recent experience as a patient using Digital Patient Engagement. See the full show notes below for details.

Guest(s):
Dr. Ronald Goldenberg, Endocrinologist at LMC Diabetes & Endocrinology

Dr. Joshua Liu (), Co-founder & CEO at ��ݮ����

Episode 31 – Show notes:

[0:07] Introducing Dr.Ronald Goldenberg, a consultant endocrinologist affiliated with LMC Diabetes& Endocrinology in Vaughan Ontario, and a recent emergent knee surgerypatient where he was able to use a light version of ��ݮ���� for his surgery recoverycare;

[1:26] Why Dr. Goldenbergbecame a knee surgery patient (patellar tendon tear), falling on ice while hiking,how he has a unique experience being both a patient and a healthcare provider,how his medical knowledge caused more concern than that of an average patient becauseof COVID-19 overwhelm and how these concerns were alleviated by the efficiencyhe experienced in hospital;

[5:57] How Dr. Goldenbergreceived ��ݮ����’s Knee Replacement program for self-management from a familymember who works at ��ݮ���� (not provided by his hospital), and why he says��ݮ���� is akin to having a “nurse in his pocket” due to its many benefitssuch as the daily health check monitoring pain and function as well as the extensiveeducation library available at his fingertips;

[11:15] Why Dr.Goldenberg thinks the ��ݮ���� education library is very valuable due to its convenienceand detailed education;

[13:00] How COVID-19 hasimpacted Dr. Goldenberg’s medical practice and has reshaped the entire reimbursementmodel for care in Canada, such as the advancements in adoption of virtual care,and how the transition to virtual care allowed Dr. Goldenberg to startpracticing sooner after his surgery;

[16:11] How the fundingmodel in Canada is slowly changing with the transition to virtual care and howall physicians regardless of employee status (fee-for-service VS hospital-basedsalary) have switched to some degree of virtual care;

[20:01] How virtual carehas both positive & negative tradeoffs for diabetes & endocrinephysicians – positives such as the convenience of digital monitoring of bloodglucose levels, and negatives such as fewer in-person physical exams;

[23:30] How hospitals inthe U.S. view virtual care as an opportunity to acquire broader patient marketshare, and how a similar expansion is beginning to emerge in Canada whereinpatients can virtually “visit” specialists remotely;

[27:55] Why Dr.Goldenberg believes ��ݮ���� would be beneficial for all therapeutic specialtiesif modified appropriately and how he would recommend ��ݮ���� to any patientwanting “state of the art” care;

Fast Five / Lightning Round Questions:

Q1: What is your favorite book / bookgifted the most?

A1: "The House of God", a satirical novel written by Samuel Shem seen as an eye-opening insight into the world of medicine.

Q2: What is your favorite movie / TV show?

A2: “The Lives of Others”, a foreign film (German) that won the Oscar for best foreign film in 2006.

Q3: What is something in healthcare youbelieve that others may find insane?

A3: What boggles my mind is that there is no integrated healthcare record; every patient has their own record at their different specialist/hospital/care provider, even with modern technology.

Q4: Would you rather have super strength,super speed, or be able to read people’s minds?

A4: Reading people’s minds because if you can know what someone’s thinking in advance, the other two don’t matter. If you know what they’re gonna do, you can act first.

Q5: What is one hobby/activity you’vegotten into since the pandemic started?


A5: I started writing poetry! I even wrote a poem about the COVID-19 pandemic its effect on all of us. It is called "The COVID-19 Generation" and is an adaptation of the famous reverse-poem "The Lost Generation". You can view it on YouTube.